In the Ken Burns doc on the Spanish Flu, it was said the best plausible explanation for the out break was from the US Army Calvary fort [I think Kansas] where they set afire a huge pile of horse manure. They said the main transmission avenue was though the Army personal. With the war there was a perfect storm as government was unwilling to quarantine military.
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theory of wuhan virus being created in a lab now being considered by UK and USA and others.
by JimmyYoung ini thought it was a strange coincidence that there was a weapons lab right near the supposed wet market where it started.
china needs to pay for this one way or the other.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/state-department-cables-coronavirus-origin-chinese-lab-bats.
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Looking For Documents. Please Can Anyone Help?
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara indoes anybody have a copy of the harbeck letters 1933 or does anyone know where to get a copy of it or just to have a read of it?these are letters that brother harbeck who was the branch overseer in switzerland wrote ,.
"a letter written by brother harbeck in august 1933 was given wide distribution among the german brothers and was used by the fearful ones in their discussions as proof of the rightness of their stand..."(yearbook of jws 1974).. i am looking for this letter in connection to a project.
thank you for your efforts.. zing.
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Harbeck, that is a name from the past. I attended the Book Study at his sons house in 1966 and again in 1968 when I was going through the, refusal of community service work in lieu of military induction court trial. They lived in the SF Bay Area Hayward, Calif. The son was university educated on the Watchtower dime during the war era, one of the very few. I forgot what it was he did but he was very successful. Harbeck Sr.I think his name was Charles had a house on the property.
There was a newly wed lady named Lolly that attended that Book Study, in time I met her two sisters. One married to the District Overseer Elmer Woodley. The other to a elder in Redding Ca. About 20 years ago the Service Dept. took exception to my putting writing that "I was going to cut Elmer's fucking throat" Heb.4:12. Well next time Elmer came thru I got summonsed to the 'upper room' with the D.O. his brother in law and two influential elders. Elmer tells me that when he was in NY he went to both the legal dept and Service dept about me. He states that the legal dept said the organization was not worried about me as statute of limitations has ran out hence I can't sue. Next he said the Service dept told him that the arson investigator who wrote a letter warning the Service dept about a $2.250M unregistered securities swindle that he recanted his letter [turned out to be a blatant lie] . Evidently I was in deep shit. I used a legal precedent and Lev.5:1 from the 1987 Wt article "A Time to Speak When?" and I backed them down! I walked out of that room with Elmer telling me "to bad I wasn't going to get into the Kingdom" I retorted that there was always room in the kingdom for a man that will stand up to a swindler of widows. No disfellowshipment. True story.
Everything I ever posted on this site centers around the article "A Time to Speak When?" paragraph 6 and how it relates to the revision of Lev.5:1 in the 2013 RNWT. I sent that Wt.Sept 1 1987 article to Trey Bundy with some supporting material two weeks after the Oxygen TV story. I suggested that he run paragraph 6 by a Rabbi. There is a very specific technical point that flew about 3 pay grades above Lloyd Evans head in his blog on the "Silver Sword" in 2013. If Trey can see that technical point then perhaps he can make some dominos fall.
Will something like that happen, I don't know. I have only been on this project for 30 years and every time I think I got things in place then something happens and blows my thinking all apart. Which in this case the virus clears the desk.
In this post I am not trying to prove anything or beat a old drum. Just putting it out there the possibility a Rabbi's review of the Sept. 1 1987 Wt. "A Time to Speak When?" could have a impact on Trey's work. Just something to put on a shelf. The bringing up the name Harbeck is just a part spider web of people and how they connect to my 30 year project. To me it is interesting how things intertwine as my 30 year project is more about connecting people and events with a certain objective to accomplish. So I either have a tremendous waste of time [with great losses] or something very unique that is controlled by the interest of a Rabbi.
We will see what happens.
Bill
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Russia
by Bill Covert inarticle on msn web news couple of weeks ago.that 200 new names were added to the 1,000 or so already under persecution in russia.
the interesting part was that it was the financial crimes agency that taking the actions.
which would fit orphan crows posts that the persecution in russia was triggered by the watchtower liquidating assets and taking the money out of russia in violation of russian monetary laws profibitating the removal of money out of russia.
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cut off at the ankles, my apologies
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Russia
by Bill Covert inarticle on msn web news couple of weeks ago.that 200 new names were added to the 1,000 or so already under persecution in russia.
the interesting part was that it was the financial crimes agency that taking the actions.
which would fit orphan crows posts that the persecution in russia was triggered by the watchtower liquidating assets and taking the money out of russia in violation of russian monetary laws profibitating the removal of money out of russia.
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Zing
It was just something I seen one time. Orphan Crow was the one who brought out the Watchtower removal of money out of Russia in violation of Russian monetary laws. Check out her posts, she has a great mind, I have learned more from her than anyone else on this forum.
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Russia
by Bill Covert inarticle on msn web news couple of weeks ago.that 200 new names were added to the 1,000 or so already under persecution in russia.
the interesting part was that it was the financial crimes agency that taking the actions.
which would fit orphan crows posts that the persecution in russia was triggered by the watchtower liquidating assets and taking the money out of russia in violation of russian monetary laws profibitating the removal of money out of russia.
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Article on MSN web news couple of weeks ago.That 200 new names were added to the 1,000 or so already under persecution in Russia. The interesting part was that it was the Financial Crimes agency that taking the actions. Which would fit Orphan Crows posts that the persecution in Russia was triggered by the Watchtower liquidating assets and taking the money out of Russia in violation of Russian monetary laws profibitating the removal of money out of Russia.
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Special meeting next month (February 2020)
by Jofi_Wofo init was announced today that we will have a special weekend meeting next month.
it will be 3 hours long and will include some streamed content.. no explanation was given as to what the meeting will be about, only that it will be exciting and we will not want to miss it..
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Feburary 8,9 Oxygen TV.
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If You Were Invited To A Judicial Committee How Did It Go??
by minimus inwas it awful?
did you feel freedom?
was it a kangaroo court!.
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The case was in 2004, charge was being a "reviler" . The proceedings was scripted out by Service Dept, same as Ray Franz. There was no deviation from script on part of committee. There was no consideration of any material, court case, Service Dept. lies, forensic audit dealing with a $4,250,000 unregistered securities fraud.
There was no hearing of the committee elders part of refusing to forward two letters of criminal investigation into that fraud. There was no consideration of the Sept.1 1987 Wt article "A Time to speak When?" which provided Lev.5:1 commentary that required that elder body to forward those two letters. They did not like when I literally got in the face [about 6 inches] of elder calling him a coward because fear of being "wolf bitten" Acts 20.
The only thing on the table was whether or not I was going to become obedient to organization.
The whole proceeding was so rigged that in the Appeals Committee inadvertently revealed a court case of a widow being swindled by same elder swindler who defrauded my mother in law. The court case was dated Oct.2003-March 2004. My wife left in May 2004. The Service Dept. thru malice destroyed a family to cover up the WTB&TS apostate Gestapo informant policy they base on Lev.5:1. Again the only thing on the table was my being obedient to organization. The chairman did not like being cornered as to prior negative position comments on the swindler, yet at the same time having to keep secret his knowledge of current swindled widow.
The widow of the 2003-2004 court case #149893 is no longer a JW but is a counselor, specializing in abuse victims. The judgment was sealed.
I have a feeling the proceeding was so unnerving for one committee member he quit being an elder and went inactive.
My first post on this site went into those proceedings.
This was also the basis for Barbara Andersons article "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals".
This has been a 30 year contest over Lev.5:1 and a $4,250,000 unregistered securities fraud to where my letter of 7-4-2019 was left at area Kingdom Halls and yet to be posted to the homes of publishers [as described in 2013 WTB&TS summer assembly talk on "Human Apostates"]. I included a letter from the District Attorney's office that stated my issues with JW church policy of 1Cor.6:1-8 preventing widows and seniors from taking a JW swindler to court over his real estate fraud.
So as I am writing this post I am waiting so see how much stress the facilitator of the swindler can handle, being he was the elder who did the lying to the Service dept. 30 years ago. The elder responsible for refusing to warn Service Dept [check out Merton Campbell this site and Red Bluff molester Henderson] could not handle the stress of Lev.5:1 cowardice when I taped court case #149893 of which I retained a private investigator to uncover. I posted court case on church doors Dec. 26 2007 on Dec. 31 he had a heart attack. The responding fireman was my son who saw real fear in that mans eyes as the last thing he saw was the son of the man he condemned because of his fear of "wolf pack" over Lev.5:1 [as described in my first post] . Turns out that elder tried to stick his penis in my sons mouth when he was 7 or 8.
So this next week I need to find an attorney who would be interested in doing a private investigation into California State Real Estate records to see if evidence can be revealed as to how many JW widows and seniors were swindled. If that can be established, would it be possible to turn swindler over to Calif. State Attorney Generals office for prosecution. If so then can the WTB&TS be held liable for elder abuse as their 1Cor.6:1-8 policy prevented protection from being swindled.
Now all this is being up front as a challenge to Church authority as to how are they going to handle up coming threat.
Now everything related here centers on the Sept.1 1987 article "A Time to Speak When?" and the new RNWT revision of Lev.5:1 and how this relates to a $4,250,00 unregistered securities fraud. Up to this point in time the only person who took the time to comprehend "A Time to Speak When?' was Barbara Anderson of which she wrote her article "Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" which she slanted to the bigger issue of molestation as compared to this single issue of elder abuse.
So unless you can figure out why the WTB&TS has cloaked their revision of Lev.5:1 in the new RNWT in silence please refrain from telling a "needy man" Eccl.9:13-16 why he can't whip the church's ass.
Two weeks ago my son was on local news being poster boy for County Mental Health success story of conquering alcohol abuse brought on by PTSD of handling deceased infants on Fire Dept responses. The root cause of being isolated from father per shunning was not mentioned. Of local note last year in the Carr Fire a fireman died, he was pals with my son and was the RFD driver on the local church elder I mind fucked to death. The church tactic of hostage taking by using 'shunning' as a tool can be a rough game when reversed.
So could be a interesting future in Redding Ca.
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Jehovah's Witnesses as medical records employees, and Medical Privacy laws.
by Balaamsass2 inthis subject has been brought up before.
the governing body and watchtower have repeatedly encouraged jws to show loyalty to the organization to "keep the congregation clean" by reporting wrongdoing to the elders.. i know directly of two cases.
two jws working in the records department of our local hospital "outed" 3rd gens 1st husband to the local elders when he and his mistress sought medical treatment together for stds.
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the hypothetical "Mary" the clerk in the article A Time To Speak When? was really a nurse named Sharon of Oakland Ca. who married my uncle, Ned. The issue was her seeing a married sister scheduled for a abortion, she informed elders. Got black balled from medical profession. I only met her once in 2006.
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Jehovah's Witnesses as medical records employees, and Medical Privacy laws.
by Balaamsass2 inthis subject has been brought up before.
the governing body and watchtower have repeatedly encouraged jws to show loyalty to the organization to "keep the congregation clean" by reporting wrongdoing to the elders.. i know directly of two cases.
two jws working in the records department of our local hospital "outed" 3rd gens 1st husband to the local elders when he and his mistress sought medical treatment together for stds.
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Read Barbara Andersons article " Flawed Decrees Conceal Criminals" on her site.
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Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.
by benny inwhat are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.
i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.
this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..
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"Community service in lieu of military induction was a compromise of Christian conscience!"
I did not get prison but a $3,000 fine [ Sacramento Ca. US judge was a huge fan of Abraham Lincoln , as seen by portraits in his office, it cost $300 to buy your way out of army during Civil War factor in inflation hence $3,000] and am a felon. 1968.
Some who took community service got disfellowshipped.